tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post6975003124380494740..comments2024-03-25T13:40:30.747-04:00Comments on Faith and Theology: On children's ministry: or, where to find the most impressive person in PrincetonBen Myershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-15920713357639214772009-05-27T01:20:04.393-04:002009-05-27T01:20:04.393-04:00I'm not insulted Pastor, and it wasn't just a nice...I'm not insulted Pastor, and it wasn't just a nice point, it was a very good point on the importance of teaching children.stephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-58569796534890404862009-05-26T21:22:01.481-04:002009-05-26T21:22:01.481-04:00Geesh people...get a grip. It was just a nice poin...Geesh people...get a grip. It was just a nice point about Sunday School teachers....and you look for insults?<br /><br />My catechism says that we are to obey the 8th commandment by explaining our neighbor's actions in the kindest way. Try that and you won't feel so insulted all the time.Pastor Joellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14212838423929588352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-18764715370047483602009-05-25T08:38:45.512-04:002009-05-25T08:38:45.512-04:00The high falooting pontifications of academia will...The high falooting pontifications of academia will have less influence on the future of the world than the children and those blessed with the ability to teach them. :-)<br /><br />I enjoyed this post!stephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14904231885062349459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-78195028279452626002009-05-17T02:34:00.000-04:002009-05-17T02:34:00.000-04:00Rowan Williams apparently was a "hopeless" Sunday ...Rowan Williams apparently was a "hopeless" Sunday school teacher...<br />(Rowans' Rule, p. 113)::aaron g::https://www.blogger.com/profile/03849988327077565616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-77156344948999168142009-05-10T03:42:00.000-04:002009-05-10T03:42:00.000-04:00Anybody doubting the importance of Sunday School s...Anybody doubting the importance of Sunday School should go investigate the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habib_Girgis" REL="nofollow">modern Coptic Church.</A>Patrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10237545786695465374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-62805509448979035982009-05-09T19:28:00.000-04:002009-05-09T19:28:00.000-04:00What relationship does Princeton Theological Semin...What relationship does Princeton Theological Seminary have with Princeton University?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-55001507777422004612009-05-08T19:00:00.000-04:002009-05-08T19:00:00.000-04:00@ TA-
Dude, you are the terminator of the theo-blo...@ TA-<br />Dude, you are the terminator of the theo-blogosphere.roger flyerhttp://rogerflyer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-65957313018794619382009-05-08T18:59:00.000-04:002009-05-08T18:59:00.000-04:00Dear Mr. Stormface-
"I'd like to introduce you to ...Dear Mr. Stormface-<br />"I'd like to introduce you to my sunday school teacher. He's an important man. And he loves Jesus."roger flyerhttp://rogerflyer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-58120823113196126402009-05-08T18:55:00.000-04:002009-05-08T18:55:00.000-04:00@ Bob-
There you go! That is lovely. Nice moment.@ Bob-<br />There you go! That is lovely. Nice moment.roger flyerhttp://rogerflyer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-70857008891192146922009-05-07T23:10:00.000-04:002009-05-07T23:10:00.000-04:00I'm inspired. This reminds me of the time a certa...I'm inspired. This reminds me of the time a certain "distinguished professor" left his (so-called) dignity behind when he yelled out my name and waved across campus to me with large gestures. <br /><br />It was the most important thing I learned from him.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03441295976350265572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-10304402900194340862009-05-07T17:08:00.000-04:002009-05-07T17:08:00.000-04:00I took Exegesis of Galatians from Dr. Gillespie at...I took Exegesis of Galatians from Dr. Gillespie at PTS in the fall of 1999. Even though the class met at 8 o'clock in the morning, he forbade cups of coffee in his classroom. ("You won't be able to carry a cup of coffee into the pulpit"). <br /><br />Wonder how he does with the kids...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-48940339917243709452009-05-07T16:46:00.000-04:002009-05-07T16:46:00.000-04:00@ roger flyer,
Never heard of him, never happene...@ roger flyer, <br /><br />Never heard of him, never happened, impossible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-78034264967904910542009-05-07T16:07:00.000-04:002009-05-07T16:07:00.000-04:00I think Henri Nouwen was another theologian who ca...I think Henri Nouwen was another theologian who can teach us a lot about "theological greatness" and the importance of "inutility".Bengt Rasmussonhttp://cruciformphronesis.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-44881246423934592372009-05-07T16:04:00.000-04:002009-05-07T16:04:00.000-04:00I think your post is a little silly.
Does the ear...I think your post is a little silly.<br /><br />Does the ear wonder why it's not a foot, or the nose why it isn't an ear? Man... I wish I could find something like that in the Bible... hmm...<br /><br />The simple fact is that it DOES take a particularly special person to do BOTH, but to question the "realness" of his ministry as a president at a seminary does not build up the body... questioning the validity of theological exposition and questioning simply encourages the church to become a bunch of uneducated people. God did not ask us to disengage from our brains, and I think it's QUITE clear that some of us are wired to be intellectual and to serve in this way.<br /><br />On a completely different tone... my verification word is "ebarth" which sounds like a great name for a theology blog...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-20577903765748403892009-05-07T15:27:00.000-04:002009-05-07T15:27:00.000-04:00Wasn't there a certain someone who supposedly summ...Wasn't there a certain someone who supposedly summarized his theology-- "Jesus loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so."<br /><br />And then sang it for his pre-schoolers?roger flyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-55343073794539682832009-05-07T13:18:00.000-04:002009-05-07T13:18:00.000-04:00The point is that the ability to come down out of ...The point is that the ability to come down out of the very abstract rhetorical clouds of doing doctrinal theology, parsing the variants of jods and accent marks, shaking hands with nasty people in order to keep the board of trustees happy, and on and on is a beautiful thing to do that more resembles Christ's work than taking sides in debates between Milbank and Hart, Plantinga and Dennett, for example.<br /><br />I think Ben did a post on how to become a famous theologian a while back and that is maybe what teaching a good Sunday school lesson can do to ground you again so you don't play that horrid game.<br /><br />Diogenes Allen was also known to give some fantastic adult Sunday school classes at Trinity Episcopal. His best books were written out of that kind of environment (see, Love, Temptation, and Three Outsiders for three - all of which everyone should read - seriously).Drew Tatuskohttp://notes-from-offcenter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-91768798460963956562009-05-07T11:54:00.000-04:002009-05-07T11:54:00.000-04:00Logan's right. Its more patroizing hyperbole for t...Logan's right. Its more patroizing hyperbole for the shock and awe(ful) effect. Presidents of seminaries are actually more important than Sunday school teachers, because they are the ones who will hire and fire all the theology professors who will teach generations of pastors and future Sunday school teachers. Without them, we'd probably have even more uneducated social misfits and hacks than we already do. Can you imagine how bad Sunday school teachers would be without good Seminary Presidents? Puh-leaze!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-11206662973194153532009-05-07T11:52:00.000-04:002009-05-07T11:52:00.000-04:00Let me add that I agree %100 with declaring a semi...Let me add that I agree %100 with declaring a seminary president who teaches Sunday School the most impressive person on campus! (I just think both positions are equally impressive)Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-15879023669130854932009-05-07T11:50:00.000-04:002009-05-07T11:50:00.000-04:00I believe he taught the Sunday school class even b...I believe he taught the Sunday school class even before his retirement. Perhaps it was his way of reminding himself why a seminary is worth running at all.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-76330284010341336462009-05-07T11:44:00.000-04:002009-05-07T11:44:00.000-04:00Richard,
My point isn't that running a seminary (...Richard,<br /><br />My point isn't that running a seminary (or a country!) is actually more important than teaching children. I think that different members of the church have different callings. <br /> <br />My point is that it's sometimes too easy to make exaggerated statements about the greatness of a ministry one isn't involved in, as this implies that one's own discipline is the truly important one, the one that doesn't need hyperbolic praise.Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-82872193946633493972009-05-07T11:26:00.000-04:002009-05-07T11:26:00.000-04:00Logan,
I don't know if it is hyperbole given Mark...Logan, <br />I don't know if it is hyperbole given Mark 10. 13-14. Which side of that story do you want to be on?Richard Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06500628452135216019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1062490904139041292009-05-07T11:05:00.000-04:002009-05-07T11:05:00.000-04:00It seems patronizing to imply from an academic blo...It seems patronizing to imply from an academic blog that Sunday School teachers are more important than theologians, presidents, etc. Isn't this implying something to the effect of "We can take for granted how important theologians are. That's why we spend all of our time reading and discussing them. But in order to make Sunday School teachers feel like they are important too, we'll declare that they, paradoxically, are the most important."<br /><br />That is probably a little harsh, and as a young theologian I agree that Sunday School teaching is in fact as important as academic work. But why the hyperbole?Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-74949626406363006072009-05-07T11:00:00.000-04:002009-05-07T11:00:00.000-04:00It is a rare and blessed grace to be truly useful....It is a rare and blessed grace to be truly useful.kim fabriciusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-15020748007838444982009-05-07T09:25:00.000-04:002009-05-07T09:25:00.000-04:00The Kingdom of God is everything in the world turn...The Kingdom of God is everything in the world turned upside down.roger flyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-63194800068092499682009-05-07T09:20:00.000-04:002009-05-07T09:20:00.000-04:00That's a great story.
You need to come up with a ...That's a great story.<br /><br />You need to come up with a list of theologians, living or dead, and how they would fare in a Sunday School class with children. A best and worst list. With snippets of possible dialogue with the children.Richard Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06500628452135216019noreply@blogger.com