tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post6547710578568836930..comments2024-03-25T13:40:30.747-04:00Comments on Faith and Theology: 10 theses on B. B. WarfieldBen Myershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-20886214736249520662007-02-02T09:16:00.000-05:002007-02-02T09:16:00.000-05:00Ligonier produced a Tabletalk issue on Warfield in...Ligonier produced a <i><a hreff="http://www.ligonier.org/tt.php">Tabletalk</a></i> issue on Warfield in April of '05. The very nature of the magazine does not allow it to be as nuanced or critical as a journal, but it did serve to accentuate both the thought and the life of a highly underrated theologian.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05006685610827238652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-54829200829051697212007-02-01T11:31:00.000-05:002007-02-01T11:31:00.000-05:00I feel compelled to mention that our Lord had a Fa...I feel compelled to mention that our Lord had a Father, who is the central figure, some argue, of the 4th gospel. <br />And I agree with those who have said it better than I that there must be a connection between what we are (raised up with Christ, hidden with Christ, who is our life, Colossians 3) and what we do. One may do theology without actually knowing the Theos. Our work undoubtedly will suffer for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-76039294793739796712007-01-30T21:26:00.000-05:002007-01-30T21:26:00.000-05:00Kim,
“the theologian who is also a saint” sounds ...Kim, <br />“the theologian who is also a saint” sounds similar to <b>Schleiermacher’s “Prince of the Church.” </b> Though for Schleiermacher, a Prince was one who brought theology and ministry together, not necessarily theology and spiritual discipline.::aaron g::https://www.blogger.com/profile/03849988327077565616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-56618185523007062942007-01-30T04:55:00.000-05:002007-01-30T04:55:00.000-05:00There is a chapter in Philip Sheldrake, Spirituali...There is a chapter in Philip Sheldrake, <i>Spirituality and Theology: Christian Living and the Doctrine of God</i> (1998) entitled "The Divorce of Spirituality and Theology". There Sheldrake suggests that "True theologians are those who <i>experience</i> the content of their theology", and he writes: "According to the theologian von Balthasar it was only after the epoch of Albert the Great, Thomas Aquinas and Bonaventure towards the end of the thirteenth century that we see 'the disappearance of the "complete" theologian . . . the theologian who is also a saint.'" Sheldrake himself suggests that it was Peter Abelard (1079-1142) who "began to understand theology to be essentially a process of intellectual speculation" divorced from the spiritual formation of the theologian himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-41409610619018571932007-01-30T04:21:00.000-05:002007-01-30T04:21:00.000-05:00Well, this is the great temptation of academic the...Well, this is the great temptation of academic theology, isn't it? To separate the person and the work. (Of course, pastors have found ways of doing it too...)<br /><br />Personally, I think Tillich's lifestyle - which (as I understand) wasn't marked by signs of regret and repentance as I understand Barth's was - was sufficiently awful to make us question the value of his whole theological enterprise. A saintly or godly person does not make a good theologian, necessarily; but a defiantly unrepentant person cannot do good theology...michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-39691020031485133742007-01-29T22:27:00.000-05:002007-01-29T22:27:00.000-05:00Kim,
indeed,indeed!Kim,<br /><br />indeed,indeed!Joeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04037540294379020064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-41793505424889170132007-01-29T19:44:00.000-05:002007-01-29T19:44:00.000-05:00Aaron and Ben.
"You can be a great, original, and...Aaron and Ben.<br /><br />"You can be a great, original, and profound artist or thinker, and also a complete bastard."<br /><br />That's Richard Rorty. I think he had Heidegger in mind.<br /><br />But can one so easily separate the person from the work? You only have to put it that way at least to problematise the issue. Interestingly, Robert Jenson refers to Heidegger as "the twentieth century's greatest and most sinister philosopher", and he suggests a link between his philosophy of being-towards-death and his affair with National Socialism's cult of death. Perhaps if a man is a shit, a pitchfork deftly deployed will inevitably uncover some manure in his oeuvre. And perhaps not! But is it conceivable that a bastard could have produced the Sermon on the Mount? And if it is - if one did - would that change our evaluation of it? Or vice-versa? Perhaps the truly godly don't produce works of art, they rather <i>are</i> works of art. After all, our Lord did not go into print.<br /><br />Forgive these ramblings of a vexed parson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-58232658525383090012007-01-29T18:37:00.000-05:002007-01-29T18:37:00.000-05:00Good point, Aaron. And in any case, as a strict Ca...Good point, Aaron. And in any case, as a strict Calvinist, Warfield would have vigorously objected to being called a "good man"!Ben Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-33962363354211921642007-01-29T18:32:00.000-05:002007-01-29T18:32:00.000-05:00#10
Theologically, is the final proposition (‘a g...<b>#10</b><br /><br />Theologically, is the final proposition (‘a good man’) the most prosaic or the most inspiring? Barth and Tillich are infamous for their wandering eyes and groping hands – yet they were brilliant theologians. Or were they? What bearing does lifestyle have upon the significance of one’s work?<br /><br />Theologically, does being ‘a good man’ matter?::aaron g::https://www.blogger.com/profile/03849988327077565616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-85263238549207009652007-01-29T09:10:00.000-05:002007-01-29T09:10:00.000-05:00Thanks for this, Ben! I am guilty of having read ...Thanks for this, Ben! I am guilty of having read almost nothing at all of BBW, so this is a good reminder that I should become more conversant with those who once taught at the school I now attend.David W. Congdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03009330707703611224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-44529217572572043572007-01-29T04:50:00.000-05:002007-01-29T04:50:00.000-05:00Good to see an attempt to rehabilitate the much ma...Good to see an attempt to rehabilitate the much maligned Warfield at F&T.Guy Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09184743462264437085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-58497145461785583042007-01-28T19:30:00.000-05:002007-01-28T19:30:00.000-05:00You might have added: that BB Warfield was a dista...You might have added: that BB Warfield was a distant relative of Mrs Wallis Simpson who become the wife of Edward VIII. <br /><br />I wonder what her views on Biblical inspiration were?michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-46000954355309090862007-01-28T19:04:00.000-05:002007-01-28T19:04:00.000-05:00Re: #4
BBW's early training was in biology, which...Re: #4<br /><br />BBW's early training was in biology, which led him to interact theologically with Darwin.<br /><br />Re: #9<br /><br />The copy of Calvin's 1536 <i>Institutio</i> housed in Princeton Theological Seminary's Special Collections is the only one in the Western Hemisphere.W. Travis McMakenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12347103855436761304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1225012235891061742007-01-28T18:29:00.000-05:002007-01-28T18:29:00.000-05:00Thanks for this Ben.
I am reading CD II/2 at the...Thanks for this Ben. <br /><br />I am reading CD II/2 at the moment, and of course I am struck by KB's (critical) reading of the Calvinist tradition, and of Calvin - and how often that reading is reflected by contributers here. <br /><br />It is a reading that is attractive to me; but, of course, I am frequently reminded by Calvinists to the right of me that this reading has been challenged latterly by Richard Muller and others. Does Barth's reading withstand these criticisms in your opinion?michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-27998381565291120622007-01-28T18:19:00.000-05:002007-01-28T18:19:00.000-05:00Fascinating, Ben. I mentioned in that earlier thre...Fascinating, Ben. I mentioned in that earlier thread that I was guilty of only reading Warfield on Scripture. My impression of the Old Princetonians had been created by reading [shudder!] Charles Hodge, whose scholastic version of Calvinism also supported his championing of slavery (since God's providence places every one already in the station's for which they are best suited!).Michael Westmoreland-White, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06343135380354344847noreply@blogger.com