tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post114825682130129068..comments2024-03-25T13:40:30.747-04:00Comments on Faith and Theology: New poll: Reformed theologiansBen Myershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148368285620665582006-05-23T03:11:00.000-04:002006-05-23T03:11:00.000-04:00Hard to choose just one, I have favourites in each...Hard to choose just one, I have favourites in each century since the reformation.<BR/><BR/>16th John Calvin<BR/>17th John Owen/Herman Witsius/Francis Turretin<BR/>18th Jonathan Edwards<BR/>19th Abraham Kuyper<BR/>20th Cornelius Van Til<BR/><BR/>I went for Edwards overall though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148338353146584002006-05-22T18:52:00.000-04:002006-05-22T18:52:00.000-04:00I abstained from the Lutheran theologians poll bec...I abstained from the Lutheran theologians poll because I just haven't read them (despite what Ratzinger and Balthasar have done to rehabilitate Luther for me). <BR/><BR/>For this poll, I went with Edwards because he truly seems to be a brilliant theologian. He recognized that the encounter with Christ changes everything. He was very interested and engaged with the thinkers of his day. I confess I'm just beginning with Edwards, but I like what I've seen so far.<BR/><BR/>And I haven't been able to read Barth either.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262662173303042998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148332004029007672006-05-22T17:06:00.000-04:002006-05-22T17:06:00.000-04:00Joe Cathey is EVIL.....;-)Joe Cathey is EVIL.....<BR/><BR/>;-)Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16698562143972216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148319831907540642006-05-22T13:43:00.000-04:002006-05-22T13:43:00.000-04:00Zwingli who?Zwingli who?Dr. Joseph Ray Catheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02140573020952903246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148317719382857692006-05-22T13:08:00.000-04:002006-05-22T13:08:00.000-04:00Maybe it would be better to focus on a period, lik...Maybe it would be better to focus on a period, like the 20th century, like you did with the Catholics and Lutherans.Patrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10237545786695465374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148309734312778532006-05-22T10:55:00.000-04:002006-05-22T10:55:00.000-04:00NOW - what about ANGLICAN theologians? That would ...NOW - what about ANGLICAN theologians? That would be an interesting and confused poll. Do you include Anselm, Ockham and Scotus? <BR/>Hooker, Cartwright, Perkins, Owen Cranmer? Temple, Rowan Williams, Maurice? Paley? John Milbank? Hans Frei?<BR/>Does Newman count? <BR/><BR/><BR/>(please no-one say CS Lewis, with respect...)michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148309416301483482006-05-22T10:50:00.000-04:002006-05-22T10:50:00.000-04:00apologies to all but I just added a vote for Calvi...apologies to all but I just added a vote for Calvin. I am re-reading the institutes right now and there's some mighty fine work there. <BR/><BR/>Nobody has stuck up for Francois Turretin I notice...or Colin Gunton...michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148308696410982092006-05-22T10:38:00.000-04:002006-05-22T10:38:00.000-04:00I can't vote for Schleiermacher. I'm too Brunneri...I can't vote for Schleiermacher. I'm too Brunnerian for that.<BR/><BR/>By the way- in my estimation<BR/>Calvin > Schleiermacher > Barth<BR/>Zwingli > Brunner<BR/>(so far as influence is concerned I mean).Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16698562143972216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148302864816896392006-05-22T09:01:00.000-04:002006-05-22T09:01:00.000-04:00Thanks for your forgiveness, Jim. I will certainly...Thanks for your forgiveness, Jim. I will certainly quote Zwingli this week to atone for my sins.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, I'm horrified by the fact that no one has yet voted for the great Schleiermacher. (I suspect Barth himself would have voted for Schleiermacher...)Ben Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148299316587530772006-05-22T08:01:00.000-04:002006-05-22T08:01:00.000-04:00Well I'm Lutheran and I pick Moltmann and then Bar...Well I'm Lutheran and I pick Moltmann and then Barth. I just can't pick Calvin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148298510342015362006-05-22T07:48:00.000-04:002006-05-22T07:48:00.000-04:00Pontificator, let's not read back von Balthasar's ...Pontificator, let's not read back von Balthasar's importance into the 20th Century. Even if von Balthasar is more important now, the only Catholic that could be pitted against Barth is the other Karl...Rahner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148298265263458362006-05-22T07:44:00.000-04:002006-05-22T07:44:00.000-04:00Ok Ben, I can grant something of a conditional for...Ok Ben, I can grant something of a conditional forgiveness IF you quote Zwingli at some point this week. Oh, and your explanation sounds very political- almost lawyerish. Are you sure you aren't a lawyer? ;-)Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16698562143972216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148272982146397052006-05-22T00:43:00.000-04:002006-05-22T00:43:00.000-04:00We must not forget Rousas Rushdoony...:-)We must not forget Rousas Rushdoony...<BR/><BR/>:-)::aaron g::https://www.blogger.com/profile/03849988327077565616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148268203311947912006-05-21T23:23:00.000-04:002006-05-21T23:23:00.000-04:00Thanks for including Jonathan Edwards, I voted for...Thanks for including Jonathan Edwards, I voted for him because I am not really thrilled with John Calvin and I simply do not understand Barth and never have. Barth drove me to Brunner because Brunner made sense while Barth seemed to love to speak in riddles.C. Stirling Bartholomewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03571440237755902925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148266733867413662006-05-21T22:58:00.000-04:002006-05-21T22:58:00.000-04:00Hmmm, somehow I expected you would have something ...Hmmm, somehow I expected you would have something to say about Zwingli, Jim! In all honesty, I was concerned that only one or two people would vote for him, and that in this way his true significance would be undermined rather than affirmed.<BR/><BR/>Does this explanation help me to merit your forgiveness? Perhaps we could do a trade: if you'll forgive me for omitting Zwingli, I'll forgive you for choosing Calvin over Barth....<BR/><BR/>;-)Ben Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1148259283586154132006-05-21T20:54:00.000-04:002006-05-21T20:54:00.000-04:00Well I'm wordless. To have a poll on Reformed the...Well I'm wordless. To have a poll on Reformed theologians without including Zwingli is, well, like having a poll on reformed theologians without including Zwingli.<BR/><BR/>There would be no Reformed theology without Zwingli who, without question, layed the foundation upon which Calvin and Bullinger built. Further, without Zwingli, there's no Calvin and without Calvin there's no Barth.<BR/><BR/>Anyway- I'm almost as miffed at you as I am at Barth for his dismissal of Zwingli. I may forgive you one day. But not today.<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/>PS- Given the terribly limited choices, I chose Calvin- the greatest one on your detesticularized list.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16698562143972216357noreply@blogger.com