tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post112786354211674278..comments2024-03-25T13:40:30.747-04:00Comments on Faith and Theology: The Bible and the Word of GodBen Myershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1128122940373138542005-09-30T19:29:00.000-04:002005-09-30T19:29:00.000-04:00No Ben, I'm not asking for certainty because the C...No Ben, I'm not asking for certainty because the Church canonizes by faith... there's no way to prove the inspiration of canonization. I'm asking for a recognition of the fact that God's revelation is given to the Church who receives it and affirms it. If the Church did not exist, neither would the Bible. This I think is as much a historical reality as it is a spiritual, theological one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1128039874474673772005-09-29T20:24:00.000-04:002005-09-29T20:24:00.000-04:00Hi Eddie: Well, I certainly didn’t mean to suggest...Hi Eddie: Well, I certainly didn’t mean to suggest that there was any direct divine involvement in the shaping of the canon, i.e., in the ecclesial deliberations about canonicity. Rather, I was only using the term “canon” in its etymological sense, to indicate that the biblical witnesses remain the normative “guide” or “rule” for all successive Christian witness.<BR/><BR/>So I don’t think it’s a matter of God’s preference for one ecclesial canon over another. (And of course even the Protestant canon has borderline cases which are still problematic in some respects -- e.g. the catholic epistles.) In any event, the central evangelical witness of the Roman Catholic canon remains identical with the central witness of the Protestant canon, regardless of the problems of apocryphal and other borderline writings.Ben Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1128035648410624272005-09-29T19:14:00.000-04:002005-09-29T19:14:00.000-04:00Hi Ken: Really what you're asking for is certainty...Hi Ken: Really what you're asking for is <I>certainty</I>. "How do we know...?" I'm going to post on exactly this problem in the next couple of days!Ben Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1128026918648678682005-09-29T16:48:00.000-04:002005-09-29T16:48:00.000-04:00And I think you still have the problem of when the...And I think you still have the problem of when the shaping of the canon is finished. Did God really oust the Apochryphal writings? If so, has he abandoned the Catholic's and gone with the Protestant wing?Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00236115781570052603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1128012425429791582005-09-29T12:47:00.000-04:002005-09-29T12:47:00.000-04:00Still, how do we know of this election if not by t...Still, how do we know of this election if not by the witness of the Church, which inspired by the Spirit, declares that it is so? Without witness of the community, there is no canon, no confirmation of the election of which you speak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-1127978240559327492005-09-29T03:17:00.000-04:002005-09-29T03:17:00.000-04:00Really interesting post, I've thoroughly enjoyed y...Really interesting post, I've thoroughly enjoyed your series on the doctrine of scripture, very informative. Keep it up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com