tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post1019154540463999457..comments2024-03-25T13:40:30.747-04:00Comments on Faith and Theology: Trinitarian reading for laypeopleBen Myershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-14859586188207121462008-01-15T03:08:00.000-05:002008-01-15T03:08:00.000-05:00Any suggestions for clear trinitarian reading onli...Any suggestions for clear trinitarian reading online.<BR/><BR/>ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-72700627932116882952008-01-13T15:50:00.000-05:002008-01-13T15:50:00.000-05:00I'll quadruple Worship, Community & the Triune God...I'll quadruple Worship, Community & the Triune God of Grace by James B Torrance! I just spent the weekend reading it in a cottage in Carmarthenshire - utterly beautiful writing and prophetic in its message.David Williamsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336069872848288062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-56434192086462492612008-01-12T22:59:00.000-05:002008-01-12T22:59:00.000-05:00A third amen on James Torrance's book. University ...A third amen on James Torrance's book. University students get the Trinity when they read this book by Torrance.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04700116810379548849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-34315459218109747592008-01-12T22:32:00.000-05:002008-01-12T22:32:00.000-05:00really excellent suggestions! wonderful - I"m sta...really excellent suggestions! wonderful - I"m starting in on some of these right away - and recommending them around as well! (though, strictly speaking, I'm no longer a lay-person)<BR/><BR/>Many thanks,<BR/><BR/>Peter+<BR/><BR/>http://santospopsicles.blogspot.comPeter Careyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006134824557299678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-21257386695070142312008-01-12T14:55:00.000-05:002008-01-12T14:55:00.000-05:00I would second James Torrance's Worship, Community...I would second James Torrance's <I>Worship, Community and the Triune God of Grace</I>. It is an excellent and lay-accessible presentation of much of the material that he and T.F. took into much greater detail elsewhere.a. stewardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11088882067112605988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-10455575289542176892008-01-12T06:27:00.000-05:002008-01-12T06:27:00.000-05:001. The Athanasian Creed2. Questions #44-49 in Comp...1. The Athanasian Creed<BR/><BR/>2. Questions #44-49 in Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church::aaron g::https://www.blogger.com/profile/03849988327077565616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-35036117613941668832008-01-11T19:36:00.000-05:002008-01-11T19:36:00.000-05:00Many thanks for all these excellent suggestions. T...Many thanks for all these excellent suggestions. There are plenty of books here that I've never read, so I'm glad to hear of them. Another reader also sent me this suggestion via email: <BR/><BR/>Michael Downey, <I>Altogether Gift: A Trinitarian Spirituality</I> (2000).Ben Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03800127501735910966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-12874149379329592972008-01-11T16:40:00.000-05:002008-01-11T16:40:00.000-05:00Longtime lurker here (love this blog). I would al...Longtime lurker here (love this blog). I would also recommend, in addition to what's been mentioned above, a little-known book: Experiencing the Trinity, by Darrell W. Johnson (Vancouver: Regent College Publishing). It's essentially a devotional riff on Gunton--a great book.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08426395921851423962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-82973566707144949432008-01-11T14:30:00.000-05:002008-01-11T14:30:00.000-05:00Jason,good call on Smail's "The Forgotten Father."...Jason,<BR/><BR/>good call on Smail's "The Forgotten Father." I have thoroughly enjoyed it. I also think that it is pretty excessible. <BR/><BR/>Ben, <BR/><BR/>I would also suggest "The Message of the Trinity" by Brian Edgar. ISBN: 0-8308-2409-XAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-56408676142301444392008-01-11T13:46:00.000-05:002008-01-11T13:46:00.000-05:00read these lists for laypeople and envy the congre...read these lists for laypeople and envy the congregations that would read such things. I fear my church is a little less literate and/or motivated, to my shame. I don't think anyone knows what the thomist tradition is..:)<BR/><BR/>However, Mr Fabricius' 10 short propositions are invaluable to me as a crash course<BR/><BR/>Jinkins' "An introduction to theology" also has nice discussion that people can get their heads around, as does Ray Anderson's "The Soul of Ministry"Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13301222412563398458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-71852706488641652422008-01-11T11:55:00.000-05:002008-01-11T11:55:00.000-05:00I second Lash's Believing Three Ways in One God - ...I second Lash's <I>Believing Three Ways in One God</I> - highly recommended as an accessible and creative presentation of the Thomist tradition. Especially helpful to balance out Gunton's excesses, since he's a popular choice here.Travishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14145657888471991268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-60058840766439509282008-01-11T11:29:00.000-05:002008-01-11T11:29:00.000-05:00James, an excellent suggestion.James, an excellent suggestion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-10072052207639186902008-01-11T11:24:00.000-05:002008-01-11T11:24:00.000-05:00Ben,For laypeople I would recommend this book:Wors...Ben,<BR/><BR/>For laypeople I would recommend this book:<BR/>Worshipping Trinity: Coming Back to the Heart of Worship<BR/>by Robin Parry<BR/>Paternoster Press, 2005<BR/>202 pages, English<BR/>Paper, 5.5 x 8.5<BR/>ISBN: 1-84227-347-7<BR/>ISBN13: 978-1-84227-347-0<BR/>List Price: $12.99<BR/><BR/>It lays out in practical terms what is at stake and how trinitarianism developed. Robin is the acquisitions editor for Paternoster, and is no slouch, theologically.<BR/><BR/>Jamesjpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06017353888045816159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-36427503751297238462008-01-11T11:04:00.000-05:002008-01-11T11:04:00.000-05:00Ben, there's a few books that come to mind, includ...Ben, there's a few books that come to mind, including:<BR/><BR/>Colin Gunton, <I>The Christian Faith: An Introduction to Christian Doctrine</I><BR/><BR/>D.B. Knox, <I>The Everlasting God </I> (if I remember rightly there's a particularly helpful appendix)<BR/><BR/>Donald G. Bloesch, <I>God the Almighty: Power, Wisdom, Holiness, Love</I><BR/><BR/>Thomas Smail, <I>The Forgotten Father</I><BR/><BR/>Thomas Smail, <I>Once and For All: A Confession of the Cross</I><BR/><BR/>Thomas Smail, <I>The Giving Gift</I><BR/><BR/>Thomas F. Torrance, <I>The Christian Doctrine of God</I><BR/><BR/>Jürgen Moltmann, <I>The Trinity and the Kingdom: The Doctrine of God</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-23724770204508054012008-01-11T11:03:00.000-05:002008-01-11T11:03:00.000-05:00James White - "The Forgotten Trinity" gets pretty ...James White - "The Forgotten Trinity" gets pretty in depth, but I don't think any theological background is necessary. That book launched me into a pursuit of theological study.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-18939899961799303822008-01-11T10:09:00.000-05:002008-01-11T10:09:00.000-05:00I would also add James B. Torrance, Worship, Commu...I would also add James B. Torrance, Worship, Community, and the Triune God of Grace (IVP, 1996).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-37854035146010722182008-01-11T09:51:00.000-05:002008-01-11T09:51:00.000-05:00I think Gerald O'Collins' The Tripersonal God is a...I think Gerald O'Collins' <A HREF="http://astore.amazon.com/rigdivtheworo-20/detail/0809138875/105-2359605-5941268" REL="nofollow"><I>The Tripersonal God</I></A> is a good introduction to the Trinity for laypersons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-56853200182483522502008-01-11T09:34:00.000-05:002008-01-11T09:34:00.000-05:00Colin Gunton is always clear especially about some...Colin Gunton is always clear especially about some of the problems with the Augustinian tradition, so I'd second Andy's recommendation. I noticed that T & T Clark is also publishing a volume by Paul Collins called The Trinity in their A Guide for the Perplexed series, which might be good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-25318718857623060442008-01-11T08:42:00.000-05:002008-01-11T08:42:00.000-05:00Difficult to isolate one chapter, but I'd definite...Difficult to isolate one chapter, but I'd definitely recommend Nicholas Lash, <I>Believing three ways in one God</I> (SCM, 1992 - I think it's probably been republished more recently). The Church Times review rightly called it "a plum pudding of a book, rich, fruity and filling"!JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285734471152709943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14261952.post-39825284454377608492008-01-11T08:04:00.000-05:002008-01-11T08:04:00.000-05:00'The Forgotten Trinity' which is the first chapter...'The Forgotten Trinity' which is the first chapter of Father, Son & Holy Spirit by Colin Gunton (T & T Clark, 2003) - a version of a lecture given for lay people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com